(Recorded November 18, 2017)In this episode, Brian and Jack are joined by Black Nerd Problems’ Omar Holmon and Amazing Spider-Talk’s Dan Gvozden to process the news that Miles’ creator Brian Michael Bendis is moving on from the book and Marvel Comics altogether. What happens next and could it be good for everyone involved, especially considering that Marvel has a new Editor-In-Chief as well? We also try to come to terms with Part 4 of the difficult slow burn that’s been Spider-Men II.

• 0:00 – Intro
• 2:00 – Bendis is leaving?! We put up a wishlist on potential new voices for characters like Miles and Riri, as well as characters that we’d love Bendis to give voice to in his new role at DC (and not just in the comic books). Will the editorial style change as well?
• 26:36 – Spider-Men II #4 – We’re heading into the home stretch, but the pieces sadly haven’t clicked together. Shouldn’t the “alt-Miles” be more interesting beyond his name? Is the surprise ending too little, too late…or too soon? Why the “power and responsibility” conversation fell flat. Was there enough of an idea for five issues? What’s the deal with Barbara?
• 44:26 – We skip the three word summaries this time in favor of the Black Nerd Problems rating system!
• 46:22 – Outro; What did *you* think of this issue? And coming up…

Stuff that we mentioned in this episode:

• NYT: Brian Michael Bendis Leaves Marvel For DC Comics
• Reviews for Spider-Men II #4
• Wrestling references:
  • NWO
  • Four Horsemen
  • McMahon Family
  • Kenny Omega
  • Chris Jericho
  • Cody Rhodes
  • Bullet Club
• David F. Walker on Comixology (Power Man and Iron Fist, Shaft)
• Black Panther by Ta-Nahesi Coates
• Roxane Gay
• Yona Harvey
• Eve Ewing on the Marvel Comics Shakeup 
• Our interview with Jason Reynolds
• NYT: Marvel announces a new Editor-In-Chief
• The Atlantic: The Real Reasons For Marvel Comics’ Woes
• “Ether” by Nas (NSFW)
• Brian’s review of Ultimate End
• Defenders #7 – what could it mean for Miles?
• Attack on Titan

Also check out:

• Omar Holmon
• BlackNerdProblems.com
• Superior Spider-Talk
• All-New Amazing Spider-Talk podcast
• Jack’s website;  Podcasts: Inter-Comics Podcast; Four-Colour Corner; The Sequelisers!
• Brian’s Twitter/Instagram/Podcasts/assorted nonsense

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